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more spin masters, liars running around everyehere

coincidence...........???????????

HOGWASH


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I saw that Iams wet cat food is on the list.  I give my cat's the dry Hairball Iams.  Do you think I should stop feeding them this even tho the dry isnt' on the list?  They have no symptoms of anything but the bag I have is almost out and not sure if I should get more.

And if so what should I give them?  That is the only dry food they have ever had.  I also split a pouch of wet Whiska's between the two every morning.  

Thanks!!

(I feel like I just wrote a question to Ask the Vet...lol.  But I do trust your opinions as you guys are more experienced in the pet world than I am.)

does anyone have a list of WHAT is NOT POISONED ??

Anna - I just read your post on LCD about your puppies ...  :cry:  I am so sorry. I know this has been a very personal nightmare for you.

Anna

I am so sorry for what you are going through with your precious little ones.  :cry:

You are so right, your breed is one of the hardiest of breeds and this should not be happening to them.

BTW, have you tried a little yoghurt with them? I have used that in the past for pups..of course, their problems were NOT anywhere near as serious as what you are going through right now, but a little yoghurt with a bit of gatorade has saved many a pup from dehydration whilst fighting the main culprit causing the intestinal problems.

robots - At this point, I don't think any brand has the nerve to do that.

Marlee --

I have a case (actually only half of the case is left) of an Iams canned cat food that is NOT on the Iams list. But I have STOPPED feeding it to my cats anyway.

Even though they already went through half the case (before the recall) without any incidents.

I'm just paranoid for awhile -- and wanted to wait to see what gets 'added' to the list.

I have still been using the Iams 'original' dry food (orange bag).

Over the past few years, I began to use a lot of "ProPlan" cans for my cats. And they have indicated that they do not use Menu Foods and their products are NOT involved in the recall. (I think they may be part of Purina?).

They have voluntarily recalled some Alpo (for dogs) -- but they still say that it is not related to the Menu Foods situation.

But I still check the FDA site several times a week to see if anything 'new' has been reported :(

Anna~ I'm sorry that the pups are ill. And you've already lost some of them, correct?


Marlee~ Check the ingredients of the dry food that you normally buy. If it has wheat GLUTEN, then do not buy or use it.

I am feeding Royal Canin to my dogs (they are on a special diet). I believe they also manufacture regular dog food too.
My cats eat Whiskas Dry. No problems & not recalled as of today.

Anna,  I was told for adult dogs with diarrhea to give them sweet potatoes or yams (cooked and mashed)  I did this for one of my Bichons and the problem disappeared almost immediately.   Not sure about Puppies.  

Where is Carnut?  I thought he wanted a war, bring it on!

Just wanted to say to Anna that I am very sorry about the illness of your dogs. I know how much you love them, and this must be sooooo painful.  :cry:

Anna,
  Sorry to hear about the pups.  :(

I will continue to post ANY new recalls as I see and learn of them and hope all others will do the same.

THAT IS THE POINT OF MY POSTS, not sympathy as I have been accused of in hate posts.  Many of you know I have helped you with doggie problesm totally off the forum in the past and we once had a wonderful thread just for that.  

The vet gave me Albon to mix with Kaopectate and another antibiotic for the pups so we shall see.  I have never had more than two litters at one time before and so am overwhelmed even before this.

But this was my latests shipment and I even mentioned it by brand last week as their site was offering every assurance they were wheat gluten free.  Well, they are but now this is in the RICE!

Any problem with RICE is BIG news as RICE feeds the WORLD!  I am really concerned that this is in the entire food chain, any rice or other grains imported is at risk.  Seems melamine ane MSG are both used as fettilizer in China, something we would never do in this country.
So I was mixing this with Organic and Pedigree and another not recalled, there are several I use including Wellness Puppy and Adult or it would have been much worse I am sure.  I thought with the novelty and more expensive venison I was doing something really good and paying the price for it, etc.  WRONG!

This is the first one with a RICE problem to the best of my knowledge.  I am not going to let some mentally ill old grouch get to me and will continue to post information when it becomes available.  Thanks to None's daughter for this article for us all.  It is our first RICE ALERT!

Article:
 
 
Natural Balance pet food recalled

By Julie Schmit and Elizabeth Weise, USA TODAY
The industrial chemical melamine has been found in more pet food, and suspicion is falling on a second pet-food ingredient imported from China as the source of the contamination.
Natural Balance Pet Foods said Tuesday it found melamine in samples of some of its food, which led to a recall. The company suspects melamine was in a rice protein concentrate used as an ingredient, said President Joey Herrick in an interview.

Melamine is the chief suspect related to the Menu Foods recall, first announced four weeks ago for more than 60 million cans and pouches of wet dog and cat food. The melamine in Menu's products was in wheat gluten imported from China and sold to Menu and several other pet-food makers, which also did recalls.

The rice protein concentrate was imported from China by San Francisco-based Wilbur-Ellis. Herrick says the concentrate, which is being tested, is suspected to have melamine, as it was the only new ingredient. Recalled Natural Balance products include Venison and Brown Rice canned and dry dog foods, dog treats and Venison and Green Pea dry cat food.Wilbur-Ellis CEO John Thacher said his company sold the concentrate to five pet-food makers, but that most of it went to two firms. One of the primary companies was Diamond Pet Foods, which packs some of the Natural Balance product but doesn't use the concentrate in any Diamond-made foods, says Diamond spokesman Jim Fallon. The other major customer, which Thacher would not name, tested the rice protein and found no melamine, Thacher says. Natural Balance's rice protein concentrate is mixed with venison meal, Thacher says.

Natural Balance has received about 10 reports of sick pets, mostly dogs, since Thursday, Herrick says. It started testing the foods Friday, when it also asked retailers to pull the products. As in the Menu recall, some of the pets developed kidney failure, Natural says.

Natural Balance was co-founded in 1989 by actor Dick Van Patten, according to the company's website.

The Food and Drug Administration offered no comment Tuesday. It said Monday that Natural Balance had informed the agency of the issue. Thacher says it told the FDA on Sunday that it had detected melamine in some rice protein concentrate imported from China about a week ago. Wilbur-Ellis has ceased importing the ingredient from the Chinese firm, Binzhou Futian Biology Technology, Thacher says.

Along with Diamond, pet-food makers Nestlé Purina PetCare and Procter & Gamble said Tuesday that they don't use rice protein concentrate in their foods.

No other Natural Balance products include the ingredient, the company says.

Melamine is not allowed in human or pet food. It is an industrial chemical used in plastics worldwide and also sometimes as a fertilizer in Asia, the FDA says.

While melamine is not highly toxic, the FDA is investigating whether it, or something related to it, is responsible for pet deaths in the Menu recall.
 
 
Find this article at:
money/industries/2007-04-17-premium-pet-food-recalled_N.htm?csp=34  

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Anna - thanks for posting this about the RICE.  This is horrible, when will it all end?

I'm sure it's in the people food too.  The difference is it doesn't kill us quickly like it can the dogs and cats.  Probably just makes people a little sick.

I don't know as much about cats at all as I do dogs but dogs have a very short digestive tract compared to the feet and feet of intestines humans have.  They also can digest bones so it is far more acidic than ours and perhaps that accounts for the bad reaction they get, the acidity in their entire digestive tract??

I don't feed mine in plastic dishes either as I think their saliva could react with plastic.  Just a phobia of mine but I heard recently that plastic baby bottles are now a bad thing because of the reaction of the formula with the plastic, etc.